1 00:00:12,790 --> 00:00:22,870 Yes. 2 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:21,190 เ 3 00:06:58,750 --> 00:07:04,630 I wanted to understand where it came from the water that comes here to us. No, 4 00:07:04,630 --> 00:07:09,110 if you think that there is also a cold fountain there there is nothing, there is no ice, 5 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:13,830 there's nothing there, so of course it must come from somewhere higher, 6 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:27,230 no? It's just that it has to go quite a bit higher several peaks or pass through them. Yes. 7 00:07:27,230 --> 00:07:32,470 But you don't have that water from my house Have you ever seen it end before? No, 8 00:07:32,470 --> 00:07:40,110 I don't. It's been a few years and it was late. No, even when you were there who was late in arriving, 9 00:07:40,110 --> 00:07:53,110 but then spring, eh, though no, I've never seen that. But 10 00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:59,110 people in Milan think that Monterosa is called so why does it turn pink at sunset? Why 11 00:07:59,110 --> 00:08:10,510 white is white and pink is pink. Oh, no. E however this is not the case. Um, that's not the case because the 12 00:08:10,510 --> 00:08:19,070 ice to rugia rugia rugia in the fact of Aas. Because there was my grandmother who always said when 13 00:08:19,070 --> 00:08:26,630 it was bad he had this way of saying sapassa su Come to Rosja. Sapa pink souvenir. Yes. He knows how to come 14 00:08:26,630 --> 00:08:36,110 pink which means I don't know, it's so bad I don't know if it's about to turn into ice. 15 00:08:36,110 --> 00:08:54,270 Yes. Ice was associated with the bad, the it's no use. Rogia in Rogia I'll say it too. 16 00:08:54,270 --> 00:09:03,670 So, cheers. Good summer. 17 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:09,390 And one day they will say, see, once upon a time this mountain they called it ice and only stones fit there. 18 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:21,750 Oh well. What do you plan to do this summer? do some laps in eh I have to say that this 19 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:26,310 this matter of the missing water from the house makes me sad 20 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:41,750 it leads more and more towards here. I have desire for glacier this year. M. 21 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:10,750 You don't know where we're going. You don't know where are we going. The place you like. 22 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:23,190 Laki, Laki, do you know what these are? 23 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:32,470 Do you know what these are? 24 00:10:45,230 --> 00:10:52,870 Eh, where are we going? 25 00:11:00,030 --> 00:11:06,870 Kigan bru fal the column 26 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:12,110 rote brin 27 00:11:12,110 --> 00:11:21,230 schön gesperre inem lieb 28 00:11:21,230 --> 00:11:28,230 wastes schön Leche the lungs. 29 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:38,590 Schön gespirret. Linen mon und luft das geht. 30 00:11:38,590 --> 00:11:49,350 Sperre da Platz in der Laffe im Rechenkspazier. 31 00:11:50,710 --> 00:12:01,390 Certain. Doga. 32 00:13:25,710 --> 00:13:33,470 That photo shows you are maybe 8-9 years old. I might have been 12 or 13. We had done the 33 00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:38,550 mountaineering corset together. Mountaineering course together with Renzo. Yes, I think without looking at it 34 00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:43,470 word. Crying a lot here on the glacier, I remember you in the mists. I want mom, I want 35 00:13:43,470 --> 00:13:51,390 go home. Here you are. Yes, yes, yes. You were already thinking to be a refugee in life or is it something that 36 00:13:51,390 --> 00:13:57,710 did it come as a surprise? No, she didn't get to surprise. It arrived before I decided what 37 00:13:57,710 --> 00:14:03,110 I wanted to make my life. When I decided what do at university, in reality we were already talking about 38 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:13,270 refuge, therefore communication sciences, precisely because I didn't need to work. 39 00:14:13,270 --> 00:14:20,150 But when did yoga arrive? And yoga he arrived during his university years. I am 40 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:28,910 went to high school in a boarding school with nuns and there I considered myself an Atheist because it was this stuff 41 00:14:28,910 --> 00:14:38,790 I don't like it and so I really missed the side spiritual. And then instead with yoga I discovered 42 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:49,590 that even if you don't have your own religion you can be spiritual all the same. Here here there is there is a nature 43 00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:58,950 very strong, right? So if you don't have roots a a little deep eh the stuff gets in your face a 44 00:14:58,950 --> 00:15:05,750 a little too strong. In what sense? I see it with several mh several employees arriving 45 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:12,230 some very enthusiastic people, very happy to to be here, but then there are the moments of silence, 46 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:19,150 there are the calm moments when you are alone with yourself and you don't run away. And you don't feel it 47 00:15:19,150 --> 00:15:26,670 a bit the guardian not only of this refuge, but also of this mountain? 48 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:37,830 No, no, because the mountain does not need, because at the beginning I was taken by this God, 49 00:15:37,830 --> 00:15:43,550 we are destroying the world, the climate is changing through our fault, who knows what 50 00:15:43,550 --> 00:15:49,550 it will happen. We need to be more responsible. Yes, we need to be more responsible, but... 51 00:15:49,550 --> 00:15:56,630 at the same time we must also realize that you make the big change inside yourself, 52 00:15:56,630 --> 00:16:03,670 because when nature says “I have had enough", makes us disappear, 53 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:14,910 he just gets a small part and moves on. E so I'm worried about and sorry 54 00:16:14,910 --> 00:16:26,510 and disappointed at how stupid we are, But I'm not worried about nature. 55 00:16:26,510 --> 00:16:32,270 Here comes Vincent from the clouds. Eh, that's our queen. Eh, eh, 56 00:16:32,270 --> 00:16:45,750 yes. 4002. 4002, yes. And then there on his right, eh, that little stone cube, see the tip 57 00:16:45,750 --> 00:16:51,870 Jordans. The Punta Giordani I did with your uncle. Yes. When he trained for Cioio, 58 00:16:51,870 --> 00:16:56,070 he once told me "Come with me tomorrow to Giordani". Ready to go, ready to go. Yes, 59 00:16:56,070 --> 00:17:02,630 I was very happy because I was the child first that went with him and therefore I was a very relationship 60 00:17:02,630 --> 00:17:07,790 master student, but maybe that day is there was the first Yes. Yes. I was very proud of that 61 00:17:07,790 --> 00:17:12,230 had asked me this thing to do his training partner. Certain. Well, there was a 62 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:18,270 special relationship with your uncle, right? You were a little his favorite, I think you were asking me before 63 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:24,710 I was jealous of my dad's clients. But I was jealous of other children. I wish I was the only one. 64 00:17:37,870 --> 00:17:46,270 O. 65 00:18:36,350 --> 00:18:42,910 Here we are a little inside your dream. It is as if we lived inside your dream. Alright, 66 00:18:42,910 --> 00:18:50,710 Certain. There were many of us in mind, me and Reste years before I started. This here is everything 67 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:56,950 the arice? Oh, mostly. Yes, this isn't it larch, but the red one. This is spruce and 68 00:18:56,950 --> 00:19:05,070 these are larch boards. No, I like it a lot. Carpentry in ineria he learned a 69 00:19:05,070 --> 00:19:11,270 little bit of Then this is almost a block house you might say. Yes, yes, yes, yes. The 70 00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:18,230 corners are formed with the same joints. of I remain like ours our scialenians, but I remain 71 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:28,390 we understood each other without many words, each of us he had his task and there was an excellent understanding, 72 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:33,830 although logically every now and then there was some some discussion because we have character 73 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:40,670 different enough, we were a little different, though one replaced the other in a certain way. 74 00:19:40,670 --> 00:19:48,950 You have had an incredible journey as children from the worst, in short, from mountain pastures and from children, 75 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:56,350 as kids and we were always separated because I I had to stay in Lomatten where we were born and then 76 00:19:56,350 --> 00:20:04,670 there was the mountain pasture, so Oreste was in the mountain pastures and I downstream. In Noreggio there were cows, 77 00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:14,270 the goats and at the bottom there was a cow, two cows and I had to look after those because eh 78 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:30,470 they were used to provide milk to tourists and therefore we were quite separated. these tourists. Oh yes, 79 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:40,350 you were telling me about these hands. Ah yes, these they are hands that have worked and still work 80 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:50,990 both in climbing and in joinery of course. And well, it's satisfying to build with your hands. 81 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:58,790 They touched wood and also a lot of rock. Eh yes, yes, yes. But they are equivalent between doing the 82 00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:12,470 guide and maneuver the ropes and even cut some particular plant, then take it to processing. 83 00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:18,790 They look like it's a bit like old wood when you see the wood out here roasted by the sun. 84 00:21:19,630 --> 00:21:31,070 Yes, old wood has its value, but not to me likes to work and transform old wood 85 00:21:31,070 --> 00:21:39,110 shelves or some furniture. No, old wood it should be left with me. You don't have to transform it, 86 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:46,030 put it back into planes, saws. No, I'm against it. Levecchi we must leave them alone, 87 00:21:46,030 --> 00:22:01,590 as they say, twenty of them. Schni schni rock felza felato a few words in cups 88 00:22:01,590 --> 00:22:09,870 and water vaser instead Monterosa as yes call in teach? But eh here in the grone i 89 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:19,750 Valser here is called The Gletcher. Strange. The Gletcher is the glacier. 90 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:32,230 And then talking to the inhabitants of Gressodi I wonder Gletcher have you been to Monte Rosa? 91 00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:41,310 Of course, ice isn't always pleasant, the glacier is not like half a mountain 92 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:50,110 where there are paths and it's easier the orientation. It's nothing more difficult 93 00:22:50,110 --> 00:22:57,670 find yourself in a glacier, even if you know it, suddenly the light transforms, 94 00:22:57,670 --> 00:23:07,070 visibility. You can be accustomed as long as you want and you risk getting lost. So when do you have 95 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:15,790 customers behind try to stay calm, try to store as much as possible and usually customers 96 00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:22,550 that is, when they realize that there is discomfort and then they continue to ask questions and fan you 97 00:23:22,550 --> 00:23:28,350 lose concentration. Then you have to say you have to say shut up, you can't you mustn't talk, 98 00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:34,710 Don't worry, I'll take you home. One once I saw one an ibex jumped out, 99 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:41,630 an old ibex, I saw him take one direction, I pretended nothing happened, 100 00:23:41,630 --> 00:23:51,790 I followed his trail. The ibex takes you takes you to the right place. 101 00:23:51,790 --> 00:23:57,190 Thank you, thank you. 102 00:24:13,230 --> 00:24:20,510 Ready, now onto you. 103 00:24:50,310 --> 00:25:18,110 Times. 104 00:25:20,110 --> 00:25:53,390 What does the fox eat here? เฮ 105 00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:10,390 Here are the hare's tracks. Hare, hare white. What is he doing here? Going for a drink? 106 00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:31,150 And yes, it's downhill here when there are the two front legs. 107 00:26:31,150 --> 00:26:38,830 So much water coming here, eh. There isn't any one of these mountains where you haven't been, eh. 108 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:53,830 My house, my house. 109 00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:23,630 เ 110 00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:22,350 เ 111 00:30:51,070 --> 00:31:21,030 Hi C 112 00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:43,910 What? 113 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:58,990 The water is back. 114 00:31:58,990 --> 00:32:06,550 Oh well, there's a little more now than there was a month ago, in short. I have been there twice at the Monnery. 115 00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:17,310 You? Not two. Three. Not much. I have to reach you. Yes. Eh, no, come on, this year we'll go back, though. Eh, 116 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:26,470 if you were 16 in '83, I was 5 and I could be here on my dad's shoulders. 117 00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:31,710 Eh, it's strange to think about it because we liked it very come to this place. We arrived 118 00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:42,390 from behind but who knows if there is any little beast around watching us. 119 00:32:42,390 --> 00:32:49,870 Names here. Mh. Mh. Pian della rula. Pian della rula. The raves. Rve or crot. 120 00:32:49,870 --> 00:33:25,230 Crot. These are the lake houses. Mild dulai. As? The m dulai. houses. Ah, lake. 121 00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:29,270 Oh. How big is it? 122 00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:37,990 It's big, huh. Bigger than the others. Yes, it's all strange. It's very strange here. What 123 00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:45,510 is there anything strange? Well, in the meantime usually, oh well, there they are the stables below and the living area above, 124 00:33:45,510 --> 00:33:53,030 so there is the fireplace, the place to do the cheese. Was this the fireplace? Yes, 125 00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:58,910 there it is. There it is. He piled on them of the of the stones above. What he has 126 00:33:58,910 --> 00:34:07,670 in his hand is the tor that never came used to hang the milk kettle. 127 00:34:07,670 --> 00:34:12,790 on the wall and on the roof in the direction of where it is the chimney you see the smoke, you see all the beams 128 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:22,150 blackened. The other strange thing is that definitely the gateway to the of this 129 00:34:22,150 --> 00:34:27,350 this space was so small, very small, very small. With a cauldron, with that Thor there 130 00:34:27,350 --> 00:34:32,910 you think there is a gigantic cauldron. Actually, not is that you think under that Thor there is a large cauldron 131 00:34:32,910 --> 00:34:44,710 because there is a lot of milk, so that is not No, it seems strange. You say you can't do it with a big pot 132 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:55,950 what an incredible thing? Ah, this is really strange. It's really strange here. This this trap door here. 133 00:34:55,950 --> 00:35:03,150 I haven't seen her often, that is, not in a mountain pasture è Here is a ladder going down. That's not one 134 00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:10,710 stable, so it doesn't have an entrance. And what is it? Eh, do you see that this was necessarily a cellar? 135 00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:19,070 That this is a is a bowl that was put in salt to salt the cheeses. Coarse salt. Salt 136 00:35:19,070 --> 00:35:28,550 big. There must have been a table, a few things. Look, it's broken. But how come in all this, 137 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:37,030 in all this mastery they did not invent the fireplace? But I don't know, he didn't go out. Even where 138 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:41,550 I went when I was a child, he wasn't there. It always was full of smoked foods we practically lived on 139 00:35:41,550 --> 00:35:50,350 as below. Yes. And put me down. I remember that someone came home there in that little kitchen there, 140 00:35:50,350 --> 00:35:56,390 no? It was small there. Make it much smaller than here lower. So perhaps absurdly, 141 00:35:56,390 --> 00:36:06,670 no? Which since there was smoke was drawn up, which you should have stayed down instead. 142 00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:07,710 Who? 143 00:38:19,470 --> 00:38:27,750 It would be hungry look 144 00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:38,430 if you have you are the cup You have 145 00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:54,750 the third will be the hand that sails the ship. 146 00:39:07,630 --> 00:39:15,790 I don't know where we find them, eh. View I? Oh, but yes, yes, yes. Go close there. 147 00:39:15,790 --> 00:39:20,790 Let's also see if we find them here. No, right nearby. Yes, behind. Yes, 148 00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:32,430 go. Damn, you found it again comfortable here with your usual luck. Com 149 00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:44,710 Now find Alice, I'll go get her right away below. Go here. There's some here. Be careful, 150 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:49,590 eh. Just don't get hurt. Do I take it or not? Go. 151 00:39:58,550 --> 00:40:23,550 See if you find. I'm going there. Careful. Eh yes, I'm going. Go. But be very careful. 152 00:40:23,550 --> 00:40:32,070 View? 153 00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:39,950 Wow! Bottina. I hate you. Well, 154 00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:50,310 come on. Well done, well done, 155 00:40:50,310 --> 00:41:06,030 good. 156 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:19,510 Well done, old boy, 157 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:22,470 Lucky, come here, Lucky. 158 00:41:36,310 --> 00:41:49,470 My mountaineer. 159 00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:57,790 Do you make pasta? Yes. And we prepare our own the pugia offerings are called Parsat. Yes, 160 00:41:57,790 --> 00:42:06,430 Pugia is called prayer of blessing. Yes, for bless the refuge for all. It's not that I'm Yes, 161 00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:15,030 for everyone. It can also be done to do get the water back to my house. Yes, if you want. 162 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:20,310 But all these names of the mountains do they all have a meaning in Nepal? 163 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:30,510 Annapurna type. Anna Purna. Yes, Anna Purna is just Anna is food. Purna is 164 00:42:30,510 --> 00:42:39,470 Anna Purna is made like you fill something just like that. Oh. That's it 165 00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:45,270 puna. Full of food. Full of food. Yes. Wow. Anna puna is the one there. Then, 166 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:51,870 but others I don't know. But Everest you don't call it Everest. No, 167 00:42:51,870 --> 00:43:07,230 sagarmata. And what does that mean? Sagar is one rock, mata is tall. Oh well, up here too. 168 00:43:07,230 --> 00:43:12,670 Here's a crease. 169 00:43:12,670 --> 00:43:20,430 Go. Don't weld. Well yes. What do you do when you have the break? during the one-year break. Ah, 170 00:43:20,430 --> 00:43:30,630 how beautiful. But because you don't feel the soul mountain here? The quota for you here? No, 171 00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:39,510 I don't feel anything. But go! The first years yes he stayed here for up to three weeks. Yes, yes, 172 00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:50,190 calm. But why a little less now? Because he's old. No, I don't know. Go. Okay. Who is? 173 00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:55,750 Increase a little maybe for you. I'm going to take. Go. What are you going to get? I. Ah, 174 00:43:55,750 --> 00:44:02,030 others. All right. Now a moment and then Ok. Your friend is tough, 175 00:44:02,030 --> 00:44:09,750 huh? Your big brother. Big brother, yes. No, it's strong. He can also maintain, you know, 176 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:16,390 good humor even with all that It happens in life, you know? he has a big family, 177 00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:24,430 he has brothers, a few disasters of those a bit of disaster. Yes. And he thinks of everyone. 178 00:44:24,430 --> 00:44:36,470 He thinks of everyone from here. It's a big e keeps smile like this. Oh yeah. But there is something to learn. 179 00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:44,470 Come on, describe to me what climbing Everest is like. Base camp. Base camp, then there's Ice Fall. 180 00:44:44,990 --> 00:44:54,390 Even where are the customers starting to stay a little too bad? Base camp too Yes, 181 00:44:54,390 --> 00:45:01,830 like that girl before Well, she has Everyone does it the same there. Well yes, 182 00:45:01,830 --> 00:45:14,030 Yes. You are still capable of going to the top of the Come on Everest, it takes Everest easy. 183 00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:24,470 What is the most difficult point? Carpacci a lot of big carpaccio is enough. Whoa! Ah! 184 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:34,110 Crevasse. Yes. Ah, there's some, there's some there too alone. Instead of fear. You also saw many deaths 185 00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:42,470 in the mountains? No, it's the Jewish women on one who it was right in the middle of the path there 186 00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:54,590 that we spend just such a long time and hair there was a man, that is there from a from 187 00:45:54,590 --> 00:46:09,270 how much? I don't know how many and then there were all three c two. But what's that name? But I'm like 188 00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:19,750 I took two. Oh, others I said I'm scared. Oh, you stole his material? Yes. 189 00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:31,030 Carabiners. Yes, carabiners. Two nice ones, huh? There is still home. But you are happier now 190 00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:40,990 work here and there. Yes, it fits better. If he did still reserve, maybe finished. In my opinion Second 191 00:46:40,990 --> 00:46:49,950 me too. And are you a bit of a joker? Because he scarf sooner or later they end they end some 192 00:46:49,950 --> 00:47:01,030 hole or avalanche. Eh, one is sin, we two did ran together, then an inspiration went together, 193 00:47:01,030 --> 00:47:12,870 then after other inspirations where? From Olghiri. How old is that one? He was 31 years old. 194 00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:24,990 Da was called Daa Serpa. Excellent. Da. Very good indeed. 195 00:47:24,990 --> 00:47:31,110 The two of us always went together. 196 00:47:31,110 --> 00:47:35,510 But there are others too who have gone away. So much, 197 00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:42,310 eh. A like Ciull His name was. Ciulim really strong that one. 198 00:47:43,310 --> 00:47:57,510 One day we left, I don't know, half an hour later. Then it is first heard right under the field 199 00:47:57,510 --> 00:48:36,230 three evre up right above the ti. It was him. Era him. I do not know. Slipped. Finished. I didn't find it. 200 00:49:06,190 --> 00:49:16,270 Oh. 201 00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:37,150 Three laps. Three laps. 202 00:50:37,150 --> 00:50:49,190 There is also acc. you too 203 00:50:49,190 --> 00:51:00,430 laps from laps from laps 204 00:51:00,430 --> 00:51:13,950 done? No. Yes. Ok, now let's do them this one. I'll leave it here. Go. Uh, here here. No, 205 00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:22,830 ok. 206 00:51:32,910 --> 00:51:43,470 All white now. 207 00:51:43,470 --> 00:52:02,670 I run away three times, eh. Let's say the laalu soo then up la la laalu soo la sos 208 00:52:02,670 --> 00:52:19,270 I bone it. I bone it. Okay, now 209 00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:27,950 thanks. You are please. Yes, please. 210 00:52:27,950 --> 00:52:35,110 Them too, right? Ok, so that's it. I'll take it too. 211 00:52:35,110 --> 00:52:38,350 Hurry, get it over with. 212 00:52:42,070 --> 00:52:47,870 Good luck. Yes, they turned out well. 213 00:52:47,870 --> 00:52:59,990 Bravo. Thank you. Thirst. Please. Thank you. Thirst. Please. Well, you too. Bring her this. Yes. 214 00:52:59,990 --> 00:53:08,270 ha ha. 215 00:53:08,270 --> 00:53:22,030 Ah! 216 00:53:22,030 --> 00:53:22,030 ah 217 00:53:51,750 --> 00:54:02,070 pa Ah. 218 00:54:31,790 --> 00:54:31,870 ah 219 00:54:55,630 --> 00:55:00,430 Here from 220 00:55:00,430 --> 00:55:00,550 here. 221 00:55:08,750 --> 00:55:08,910 Here, 222 00:55:38,350 --> 00:55:43,150 almost Almost almost older than me. Wait, we're in our 60s. So, 223 00:55:43,150 --> 00:55:50,030 it's more with your writing. He is closer to me than to you. 224 00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:58,790 I haven't done this in years, Remi. Oh, you see good. I'm a little gentrified, you know? Eh, 225 00:55:58,790 --> 00:56:10,110 I believe that lately it's nice to start again with the jobs of the past. You haven't lost your hand, 226 00:56:10,110 --> 00:56:18,030 come on. That stuff there for 10 years those boards there, eh. These aren't rotten at all. Yes, there's one right there 227 00:56:18,030 --> 00:56:26,630 behind. Now where did I put it? See this? But that's a shoe, what does it do? 36. Eh, it's mine. 228 00:56:32,070 --> 00:56:41,230 Buffoncello. Oh, how do you feel? Eh, How do you feel when summer ends? 229 00:56:41,230 --> 00:56:50,390 There's a feeling that winter is coming like this. Oh, but I don't mind autumn, 230 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:56,630 eh. I like autumn. I know he looks like you, I like it. You are autumnal. It's not that I actually do 231 00:56:56,630 --> 00:57:08,990 everything beautiful. You feel nothing anymore. Everything becomes more there is no one left. Emptier. Yes. But for me 232 00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:13,910 that I can't enjoy autumn, 233 00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:22,790 the time to wait for spring begins. 234 00:57:22,790 --> 00:57:33,150 A nostalgia. I dream about winter. I have winter dreams. Ah, 235 00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:37,110 do you have it too? feeling of autumn. Yes, yes, it was a thing for me, 236 00:57:37,110 --> 00:57:42,190 but I have always experienced sadness particular way and for me it has always been, 237 00:57:42,190 --> 00:57:47,270 I had to put a stop to it. Friends and girls leave and that's it, 238 00:57:47,270 --> 00:58:22,870 finished. Then you don't know what the year will be like after someone never comes back. Oh well. 239 00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:32,350 How much time would I spend in this kitchen? Eh, two whole seasons for sure. Eh, 240 00:59:32,350 --> 00:59:42,150 a lot. We are many brothers, I have always shared everything and I really like sharing spaces. 241 00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:46,550 So in short, you're not one of those people who had dreamed of being a refugee all their lives? 242 00:59:46,550 --> 00:59:54,990 No, on the contrary, if I would have dreamed of life by the sea, right? Yes, but in my opinion it feels so much like home, I mean I don't know how 243 00:59:54,990 --> 01:00:01,590 explain the idea that they are things already used, which it is not the kitchen of a restaurant that is new, 244 01:00:01,590 --> 01:00:11,430 that you always have to keep it all and at home usually you use things and overuse them and anyone passes through them. 245 01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:16,150 Then apart from my house I have always lived in rent, so also be used to a 246 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:21,790 place that has already been experienced by other people basically, it's not the place where you arrive and live 247 01:00:21,790 --> 01:00:28,390 first. Here, then there when you come back down, well, it's also nice at a certain point to say "Ok, 248 01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:35,310 let's get back to normal" as much as we can be a little difficult to decide to say "Okay, 249 01:00:35,310 --> 01:00:41,670 difficult to go back down". Tomorrow Yes, when you say "I'll come down tomorrow." Yes, it's a great place where you can 250 01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:49,790 come on the run, that is, the escapes are here perfect, that is, if you want, you can become transparent 251 01:00:49,790 --> 01:00:58,310 and you miss your sight, you miss this, you miss it see the stars at night with the Milky Way, you 252 01:00:58,310 --> 01:01:08,670 maybe the sunset is missing which remains the little piece red on the beaver, you look at it from afar, eh, that is 253 01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:15,630 However, it is truly a peace that I have found here, maybe someone else will also find it in the city, there 254 01:01:15,630 --> 01:01:23,550 God forbid, but you carry it inside you anyway, even just the thought you're down, but you think about here, 255 01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:31,990 you stay in that thought for 20 minutes and it's the thing is palpable, you really feel it. And second 256 01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:39,830 It's easy for me to go back even just with thought in this place, because for me it's not like 257 01:01:39,830 --> 01:01:47,790 for you, in the sense that staying in the refuge is not it means a lot to move, or rather stay in refuge, 258 01:01:47,790 --> 01:01:55,230 in any case, living the mountains as I did it means staying absolutely still. And then yes, 259 01:01:55,230 --> 01:02:01,390 we happen to go on trips more than willingly, but if you have that spirit of adventure there 260 01:02:01,390 --> 01:02:06,550 star the refuge is not your place, because you would probably feel in chains, 261 01:02:06,550 --> 01:02:12,870 that is, one step away from what you want, but without you can really go as you want. What is that 262 01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:22,350 there? it's a tree, it's a simple common tree with a little red leaf and it's a metaphor 263 01:02:22,350 --> 01:02:33,630 which I tend to love, that is, um also the fact that you lose your leaves, but you stay there and grow, change, 264 01:02:33,630 --> 01:02:42,630 but you are reborn every time different, but the same. Then rooting too much scares me in life in general 265 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:48,590 for what I work of seasons, because I have so afraid of rooting myself, I'm not yet 266 01:02:48,590 --> 01:02:57,990 ready to say "Ah, ok, this is my place, mi stop here." No, no, no, no, it scares me. But 267 01:02:57,990 --> 01:03:12,110 the trees are beautiful. Stupendous. 268 01:03:12,110 --> 01:03:17,350 I saw that there is a photo of Antonia Pozi here. Not I know if you also put it in your book. That one 269 01:03:17,350 --> 01:03:26,070 I put the photo there on the cover of my book. It was came here in 37. Ok. Yes. in 37. Yes. Then, 270 01:03:26,070 --> 01:03:34,070 Good evening. Your bottle of wine. Thank you. My friend Vasco, 271 01:03:34,070 --> 01:03:40,630 much pleasure. I am my musician. Yes, though this is one of the rare times where one plays 272 01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:46,470 guitar. Every now and then Paolo tries to ask me but I'm in a very high mountain. And I'm a musician 273 01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:51,550 disappointing for friends. Tim musician, too because I know how to play. Yes, shy musician. Then 274 01:03:51,550 --> 01:03:57,310 I only know how to play my own songs, so no I can never make it up. Then I do some 275 01:03:57,310 --> 01:04:04,790 songs that aren't exactly like that cheerfulness. Okay, but everything is appreciated here, 276 01:04:04,790 --> 01:04:16,470 I'll tell you. So yes. With this silence it is the perfect condition for playing. Optimal. Then, 277 01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:32,550 Do you already know which route to take tomorrow? Oh, I would like to go up with me to this little lake that's there. 278 01:04:55,590 --> 01:05:00,550 This time everything is quieter. Yes, 279 01:05:00,550 --> 01:05:06,950 when the sun even the water wakes up. 280 01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:21,270 Yes, indeed the refuge still the water didn't really arrive. 281 01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:26,070 Look at all the people on the west side of Castor. Oh yes, 282 01:05:26,070 --> 01:05:37,950 there are two three four teams. 3 4 When I see them like this they seem like gods to me 283 01:05:37,950 --> 01:05:49,510 pilgrims who are doing some they are going up to some sanctuary. 284 01:05:49,510 --> 01:06:00,390 What did you do in Ireland? I used to work at McDonald's. Exact. 285 01:06:00,390 --> 01:06:06,230 And I shared a house with five Brazilians, 286 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:12,510 a girl from the Czech Republic and a boy from El Salvador. Wow! And also 287 01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:24,550 It was actually beautiful there. Apart having gained 15 kg, risked a heart attack. 288 01:06:24,550 --> 01:06:31,470 Then you never know. But here is the genep by the way. There he is. How lucky, 289 01:06:31,470 --> 01:06:38,270 I swear. Here you are. Yes, this and this. Now one is male and one is female. 290 01:06:38,270 --> 01:06:41,390 I wouldn't ask which one is or which one is the other, because I always forget it. 291 01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:56,750 It's always nice to see even just a little bit of greenery between the rocks, it gives you that feeling of 292 01:06:56,750 --> 01:07:04,470 of vegetable, so among the mineral. 293 01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:09,190 I have always been struck by the existence of these lakes that some call ephemeral. Yes, 294 01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:20,030 which should all be renamed at this point i new lakes that form from the melting. 295 01:07:20,030 --> 01:07:25,710 That's the glacier coming over there in the water. Yes, but apart from that later 296 01:07:25,710 --> 01:07:30,710 everything below, except the exposed rocks, under everything else there is always ice, 297 01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:37,150 because the ice isn't just right on top to the rock, it fits right inside him. It's for that 298 01:07:37,150 --> 01:07:43,110 which then when it melts changes so much morphology, because it's not just above, it's everything. 299 01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:12,270 That is the mouth of the glacier. 300 01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:17,950 The mini cave. 301 01:08:17,950 --> 01:08:22,230 Do you call her? Yes. 302 01:08:24,910 --> 01:08:32,310 The beauty together is impressive to the drama of this thing. 303 01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:38,150 When they talk about the dissolution of glaciers and climate change, 304 01:08:38,150 --> 01:08:42,710 it always occurs to me that where something disappears but there is something else that arrives. Eh, 305 01:08:42,710 --> 01:08:49,030 by force. It's not that the glacier does withdraw and in its place there is nothingness. 306 01:08:49,030 --> 01:09:02,150 If there is water, life will come to us. And those seedlings will start growing around here. 307 01:09:02,150 --> 01:09:08,710 When do you think you'll come back to see this place? 308 01:09:08,710 --> 01:09:13,590 Who knows when I'll be back? 309 01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:19,990 I hope before it all melts. Let's put it this way, but we'll see. 310 01:09:45,950 --> 01:09:48,030 Shit. 311 01:10:05,830 --> 01:10:09,230 For a long time I wanted the things everyone wanted. 312 01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:20,950 I wish I could keep coming back to this place for as long as possible. 313 01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:25,950 I would like to live more in the open air open, grow a nice vegetable garden 314 01:10:25,950 --> 01:10:35,630 and slow down. I would like us to, let's say, the spirit of the refuge continued and I 315 01:10:35,630 --> 01:10:44,030 I would love for the grandchildren to go too forward and perhaps future generations. 316 01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:49,030 I would like to build a shelter like this again, 317 01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:59,750 but even more beautiful and in one more place quieter, where there is silence. 318 01:10:59,750 --> 01:11:09,230 I would like to see the starry sky on the other part of the world with this same clarity. 319 01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:45,710 I would like nothing. เฮ 320 01:11:54,910 --> 01:12:08,310 As there is smoke, your whole body is bright white. The stars shine 321 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:21,270 metallic and white. it shatters and falls and how 322 01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:24,630 the 323 01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:37,350 sleep on my pains shine white metallic stars. My flower, 324 01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:58,830 flower of my soul, I spend the metal rods and white. My flower, flower for my soul. 325 01:12:58,830 --> 01:13:10,030 M. 326 01:13:28,670 --> 01:13:34,470 And the night holds yours eyes to stay safe 327 01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:37,990 and the sky lights up to make you see the future. 328 01:13:40,350 --> 01:13:49,270 And the day chases away the thoughts and you are new to morning. And he waits for hours to be with you 329 01:13:49,270 --> 01:14:00,470 near and of which hour in which days even yesterday is passed and took everything away leaving you a 330 01:14:00,470 --> 01:14:14,270 starry sky. they take the metallic stars white. My flower, flower of my soul. 331 01:15:47,110 --> 01:16:00,310 Was it late spring or was it summer Indian? There was an evening wind 332 01:16:00,310 --> 01:16:12,150 that disheveled us and a black cloud over the plain, any stone for good luck. 333 01:16:13,710 --> 01:16:22,550 You will find me listening to the trees, things that aren't urgent. Mi 334 01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:32,710 you will find yourself counting the lightning and deviating the streams as if they were our destinies. 335 01:16:33,950 --> 01:16:45,150 How could you still change all your plans. 336 01:16:45,150 --> 01:16:55,190 The storm had passed, the cold air from glacier caressed us. It had collapsed with the 337 01:16:55,190 --> 01:17:05,230 dam the illusion of security of a nation whole, but the wind made a sculpture. 338 01:17:06,430 --> 01:17:11,630 Blessed spring, 339 01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:24,830 you will find me listening to the trees, the things that they are not urgent. You'll find me counting the lightning, 340 01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:30,830 to divert the torrents as were our destinies. 341 01:17:32,150 --> 01:17:49,230 progress like them slowly like rare flowers find out all the reasons why you weren't sleeping 342 01:17:49,230 --> 01:17:54,230 no longer following the sirens of everything this to always sing attracted 343 01:17:54,230 --> 01:18:01,350 from appearances from being able to lie down in the fields at the most beautiful hours Admiring the 344 01:18:01,350 --> 01:18:08,830 stars of the great master plan, do the hungry, making love, observing the sky like 345 01:18:08,830 --> 01:18:20,630 was our mission. See how it changes color. You will find me listening to the trees, the 346 01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:35,990 things that are not urgent. You will find me not doing calculations to deviate as if they were our destinies, 347 01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:44,070 how I could still change all my plans. 348 01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:54,110 all your plans. M.